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shinu
shinu @shinu commented on Slut shaming
Feb 05, 18 at 6:24am
Oneman, I'm nowhere near being a liberal. Not even close. When I say you're intolerant, I mean it at the most basic sense of the word. I probably have more conservative views than you do, but my views are predicated on knowledge and understanding, while yours are based on your own intolerant desires. To be completely blunt, we're not a society that belongs to you, so don't think for a second that we're just going to sit down and follow your rules. Cinnaminion, that was MY point. The clear difference between what you stated and what I stated, is that you're not comfortable with the word "normalize", but you recognize all of the other parts of it as true. That the amount of cases of it will increase as time goes on, that the current stigma against it is too severe, and that people should be taught to think things through before they take such risks. Shrugging it off and ignoring it isn't the same as normalizing it, and to be clear I referred specifically to reducing the social stigma behind what is a common practice by many. As a completely separate point, sexuality doesn't completely fall in line with "sensitive information". It is sensitive because of how you'll feel when people see it, but it's not sensitive in the fact that someone can claim to be you or something, and I think we can both agree that it'd be wrong for your employer to fire you if he came into contact with pictures from a third party completely against your will. So currently, the primary reason that it's considered "sensitive information", is due to how people treat it and the social stigma around it. When people find out a person revealed their body to another, they can begin to harass that person, even though literally all of humanity does that on a regular basis, there simply wasn't proof of it before.
oneman
Feb 08, 18 at 3:55am
@Shinu Hardly. I'd say your so-called "knowledge and understanding" is just the same rehashed crap sprinkled with condescension and patronization. Even worse, you say my views are based on only MY views. When in actuality, it is just an alternate interpretation of the facts on hand, contrary to what you believe. I'm not denying bias in the slightest, but for you to run your proselytization and then call me biased is hypocritical and disgusting. @shinu Good luck with believing that To be completely blunt, we're not a society that belongs to you, so don't think for a second that we're just going to sit down and follow your rules.", since you clearly don't understand how people operate. Nor do you understand how the law works, or the prison system. When I do end up in power, and I do make laws, you are REQUIRED to follow them, or else face charges and end up in prison. So good luck with that bravado. Don't confuse "being blunt" with "being childish and delusional". The fact of the matter is, anyone can become president, and get laws put into place. Laws citizens are required to follow, or face civil and criminal penalties. End of story. Last but not least, the LAW is the ultimate theme here that you continue to ignore here, that I've mentioned several times prior, because you know that what these people do is indecent exposure, which faces criminal and civil penalties. You've never disproven it, because you CAN'T. So much for "knowledge and understanding". The more you run your deluded fantasy idealism, the more I think you're the intolerant one, considering you only care for your agenda and your agenda alone. Which is fine. I have an agenda too. Albeit I'm not intolerant, since I also know how to work with other agendas to get what I want in life. A skill I'm afraid you are clearly lacking in. Unlike you, at least I'm patronizing and condescending up front and in center. Whereas you're just a self-righteous windbag in the closet over his own vile nature, and passive-aggressive in your patronizing beliefs system. To be intolerant is to be inflexible. Yet I am not the latter, so I am not the former.
oneman
Feb 08, 18 at 4:01am
"No no... it makes PERFECT sense to get rid of the internet to prevent people from sending nudes to each other! Also, to prevent people from getting mugged, we need to get rid of sidewalks! We can end shark attacks if we drain the oceans! Let's put an end to drunk drivers by getting rid of all cars! Oh, what's that burglar? You wanna break into our homes and steal our stuff? Not if we get rid of houses! World hunger? Problem solved! We merely get rid of food! We can cure cancer by simply-... oh excuse me, someone's knocking on my door... Oh shit it was the Nobel Prize for "Greatest Human Ever" being awarded to me for my ground-breaking ideas to solve all the world problems!!!!" Wow, Jay Leno could learn from your comedic value. After all, your sarcasm is the biggest joke of this thread. Getting rid of the internet is actually the most effective solution here, whereas what you're doing is trying to degrade the integrity of an actual, tactically intelligent solution by comparing apples to oranges. FFS, don't lower an intelligent solution to nonsensical concepts such as "Oh, what's that burglar? You wanna break into our homes and steal our stuff? Not if we get rid of houses! World hunger? Problem solved! We merely get rid of food!" That is entirely dumb, and entirely irrelevant to my point. Albeit, the best way to prevent drunk drivers would more likely be the systematic destruction of alcohol. Don't mistake an entire existence's destruction for something else. Also keep in mind that draining the ocean would actually prevent sharks from thriving, but since that is impossible, there's no point mentioning it.
__removed_bloodman123726
Oh lord, what a loooooong list this is. It should be simple; any shaming is bad. It's degrading, paints you in a negative light to others and especially can play on the minds of those you do it to. Of course, you could say there is examples to this. Like say, shaming a man for killing a puppy with a hammer. (Literally was on the news here.) But that's an entirely different ballgame compared to shaming a woman who got her nudes LEAKED and then DOXXED because of it. It just ain't good nor nice, man.
bob_loblaw
Feb 08, 18 at 7:16pm
Oneman, I seriously have no interest in trying to rationalize with you. I've seen enough of your comments in other threads to know you're nothing but a barking dog chained to his own dog house. However, I do have one question for you, which you're obviously free to ignore, but I'm gonna ask regardless simply to see if you'll reply in precisely the manner that I'd expect from someone as oblivious to themselves as you are. First, some pretext. You have very high standards of how a girl must look... yet you have no picture of yourself. You love to tell others of your greatness, such as how you're one of the greatest tacticians in the country... yet you have no job. You present yourself as an asset to mankind... yet your only explanation of why is "look at how I talk." You criticize the way others think... yet you actually entertained the idea of giving girls your (make-believe) Youtube business cards to let them know you're available. You proclaim to have superior intellect... yet you've resorted to name-calling. So... my question is this: What exactly have you accomplished in life that you could put on a job application to put yourself on the path of the success you think you're entitled to? Because all I see is a dude in his late 20's that's never been with a girl, has no job, and is driven by his own insecurities in desperate attempts to get online strangers (that he claims are inferior) to acknowledge his (self-proclaimed) superiority. If you answer my question, which should be easy enough for you to spot since it's the only thing I've typed out with a question mark at the end, then perhaps we can have a valid conversation. However, if you deflect the truth and merely proceed with your baseless self-proclamations, then please refer to the picture below, AND you can have the final comment! https://misscm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/wtf-face-girl-e1427384359130.jpg
digitalwolf001
Ignoring all the above nonsense...You can't be shamed if you're proud. Did you find my nudes? Way fucking cool. Oh you think my face is shit? Check out that ass though, right? It's the internet though so, don't take the trolling to heart. If you get Doxxed the people who make false reports are going to jail now so you'll be ok. Well I think that just about wraps up this thread. Let's all go grab a drink and talk about more politics.
gotchicho
Feb 08, 18 at 7:50pm
No one has the right to slut shame anyone for nudes. I hope whoever is being attacked knows their worth and is unbothered. I do agree with Wesley to an extent, because if you’re in a mature relationship even the fall out won’t change the fact that those pictures were intimate and they should stay that way.
a_wesley_g
@oneman You keep referring to the law, calling it indecent exposure, and calling these people criminals. Maybe you need to actually look up what that law is, and what it means. Indecent Exposure in the Media: The legality applied to the innate nature of any acts, expressions, and depictions latent within circumstances involving an Indecent Exposure charge are typically not brought into question. In contrast, the setting in which they take place become the focus of any legal investigation. While nudity and sexually explicit or suggestive media is not necessarily illegal in specified forums, the subjection to the general public of these activities can be construed as Indecent Exposure. There exists a varied perception of the delineation between Indecent Exposure and acts rooted in artistic or lawful expression. All expression(s) that take place in a public setting must comply with any and all applicable statutes concerning the nature of behavior that constitutes Indecent Exposure. These pictures in question on not being taken in public, nor is the person taking the picture subjecting the public to them. They are private. But they are being stolen or misused and being made public. That doesn't make the person in the picture a criminal.
kameiya
Lol! There goes detective cadet again. Though on forum base convo here, reasons they might do this? Might be a few. They feel righteous about leaking this out and putting her down cuz they don't agree with her actions and it conflicts with their own opinion or logic of the world. Use oneman own self winded fights against everybody here due to his own "factual beliefs". Another could be boredom and they saw this and decided this would be fun to spread to others and cause an uproar. Other reasons can be just as petty like jealousy cuz they can't get a girl to do something like that for them so they take their frustrations out on a girl who does it for another. Then there's the no reason at all method. They did it simply cuz they wanted to. All reasons which shouldn't justify them to do this in the first place. Unfortunately there will always be people out there who will keep doing stuff like that cuz it's a descion they make for themselves. Others might disagree with this but that's my viewpoint on it. Did you ever come up with an answer to this for yourself lamby?
shinu
shinu @shinu commented on Slut shaming
Feb 08, 18 at 11:35pm
Oh I completely forgot about this. "You've never disproven it, because you CAN'T. So much for "knowledge and understanding"." http://www.startribune.com/iowa-court-offensive-text-photos-aren-t-indecent-exposure/472399333/ http://statelaws.findlaw.com/ohio-law/ohio-indecent-exposure-laws.html http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.88.010 https://www.hmichaelsteinberg.com/colorados_indecent_exposure_and_public_indeceny_laws.htm http://statelaws.findlaw.com/oregon-law/oregon-indecent-exposure-laws.html <- This one is your state http://www.lawstuff.org.au/nsw_law/topics/Sexting I could gather links for all 50 states I imagine, along with many for the rest of the world. One of those links is for Australia, and I was just randomly looking. Basically you're full of shit and the facts are strongly on my side. Or rather, I'm on the side of the facts.
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