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Straight or Bi - and how did you realize?

oneman
leo_ss Leo The Wolf Feb 04, 18 at 10:18pm "I did not contradict myself. I said In General, do you see that pretty little phrase, "in general" In general, Human's have ten fingers, so we say, Oh, a human being has ten fingers. In General, people have two eyes. Hence why I used it. Generalities matter. It's to teach the mass population, what they are most likely to deal with. Am exception does not make a general rule wrong. Sexual attraction is inherent. Yes you develop it through puberty, it's through your hormones. Hence why on odds, Guys like girls, and girls like guys. Certainly you can try to brainwash people into liking a specific sex, but odds are it won't work(Hence why electro shock therapy, and other pray the gay away techniques don't turn them straight.). You aren't taught a sex attraction, it's biologically done. Through that wonderful phase, we call puberty. Hence why Pedophiles, and those with gender dysphoria, have different brains. It's because the hormones were screwed up during some part of the maturing process and made a abnormality. Yes you can teach things that are wrong in school, haven't you ever heard of an analogy? And I don't know what schools you've been to, But they never taught me about sexual preferences. Only why we have our organs and what we do with them. Kids are not brainwashed to be attracted to someone. She's young, she should do what she feels is natural, she should find herself. It's calling maturing. That is not a wrong philosophy to go off of. A straight kid won't be attracted to the same sex. Hence why labels exist. They are straight. There is nothing wrong with a label. It helps describe things to others. And yes you are being overly aggressive and it shows a lack of maturity on your part. If you can't make your argument without getting pissy than odds are, you shouldn't be talking about it. Because of your own biases. The real lesson is. Do what feels natural, don't let others hold you back. I'm straight, but I'm not going to go screaming down some gay guys throat that he should only date women. Christ. X" No, so much of this is incorrect. Starting with inherent sexualities, because not everyone works the same way. As well as "Generalities matter." No, they don't, and are oft there to be lazy and not explore a topic in detail. Especially that of sensitive information I.E. sexuality. There is no biological component to this whole "sexuality" thing. It is all psychological, and often times people can be attracted to a different sex if the psychiatrist can determine the very aspect of man/women that the person finds attractive, and use it to form the means as to convince them to find the other sex attractive. There are varied attractions across a wide spectrum. Generalizations are outdated, antiquated and based on very little information. However, as usual this is quite the uncommon practice, and just like every other crutch, you are too lazy, arrogant and self-entitled to believe anything other than your own opinion (If it is even your opinion in the first place. Seems to me people just parrot garbage and call it their own opinion.) "Kids are not brainwashed to be attracted to someone. She's young, she should do what she feels is natural, she should find herself. It's calling maturing. That is not a wrong philosophy to go off of." No, this is very wrong because what kind of "sexuality" you are, only serves to further categorize people and corral them into pens. This is societal conditioning and peer pressure, which has been going on for eons. What matters is what you find attractive in a person, not their f-ing sex. Might seem odd because of me, but that is the truth of the matter. But here's where the big issue lies: The concept of "sex attraction". Humanity's biggest problem is the idea that sex is what matters in a person. When in actuality, unless you have psychological circumstances, a person should not judge their attractions on sex, but personality and character. "Through that wonderful phase, we call puberty." I do hope you're being sarcastic, since a large percentage of the population consider those days a living hell. If anything, puberty has been a focus of misery for plenty of people, but I'm not really surprised you would blatantly state things like this, since you think "Generalities matter" when if anything, in all applied sciences and knowledge, the more researched and valued element is the exception. "She's young, she should do what she feels is natural, she should find herself. It's calling maturing." No, it is called a doctrine determined by other people, and while I do think she should find herself and do what she feels is natural, the actual structure behind the debate is actually structured about that very concept now isn't it? After all, what's natural? Is it a forced ideology and concept to coral someone into liking a biological sex? Or is it falling in love with someone, for who they are, and throwing away extraneous garbage like biological sex aside? Whilst labels are fine for what they are, ones that don't serve a purpose other than to fuel an agenda should be removed POST HASTE. To contradict this is to deny the possible negative consequence of such a label. Which is what you are all about, now aren't you? Lazy morons who use half-truths to justify your laziness and malicious intent. As for what kind of schools teach that, well I am from Oregon, so yeah they had an education about that stuff. Nothing terribly inappropriate, but what it is in its basic element. Not that it mattered, since the notion of human sexuality bores and disgusts me. So I pretty much just slept through it while the idiots in class listened with excited ears and interested eyes. "And yes you are being overly aggressive and it shows a lack of maturity on your part. If you can't make your argument without getting pissy than odds are, you shouldn't be talking about it. Because of your own biases." THIS statement right here is why YOU shouldn't be talking about this subject, since this is all just collective bias anyways. If your integrity is put in question, you are inherently in the right to get upset. This statement not only shows self-entitlement, but also shows condescension and ACTUAL BIAS. I "got pissy" because it is deserved, and I have an agenda. Yet to say bias shouldn't factor into an argument is disgusting and patronizing. Argument exists to fuel one's own agenda in the first place, not some imaginary form of obligatory servitude. You're an unimaginative, self-serving, false virtue flagging idiot who only spews self-gratifying fallacy to make himself retain the feelings of security because he couldn't hold an actual opinion, and only spews tripe that he parroted from other people. So here's my lesson to you sir: Consider the consequences of your words and labels. My lesson to the girl: Find someone wonderful based on their positive qualities as a person, and not bother with the irrelevancies such as biological sex.
__removed_bloodman123726
The boring case of looking at a girl and going o shit waddup
leo_ss
You know what effects our psyche? Our Physiology.Our bodies, Our hormones that shape that body, and our brains, that are also effected by hormones. So yes, Attraction is mental, But you seem to love to ignore that our mental properties, are Effected by our biology. Okay so, when we're teaching things in school, Instead of teaching that human's have ten fingers. We should teach that human's can have any numbers of fingers, that they can be grown on many different places on the body, that humans are born with any numbers of hearts or different organs? You can't be this stupid. I refuse to believe someone is so damn Stupid, and so far up their own ass that they honestly believe it. Yes there are abnormalities, but we should teach the norm first. Why? Because again, it is what they are most likely to encounter, and we should teach that these abnormalities are just that. Abnormal. A mutation. Because that is what anyone with more than ten fingers would have. Nothing wrong with being an abnormality. Most people are abnormal in some area's where are others aren't. But it is important to make these differences distinct. You can't force attraction. It's why you can't pray the gay away. It's why no matter how I look at it, an unhealthy person is unattractive. No matter what I do, I will never see short hair as attractive. Attraction is not a brainwashing process. It is indeed affected by your mentality. But it is Not, MADE by your mentality. It's overall control by hormones, and how they have affected your brain throughout the glorious stage called puberty.(You need to work on your sarcasm detector if that wasn't obviously a sarcastic remark to you.) What's natural? Come on that's simple. What feels natural. If you want to go technical, however, It'd be straight relationships. Because the whole reason we started having sex is to reproduce originally. Meaning that is the most 'natural' It's why we are compelled to mate. However, we obviously don't go by our natural instincts anymore, or we'd also be busting heads open of other males, and stealing their women by force. Like cavemen. Yes you do have an agenda. Apparently anyone who disagrees with the stick up your ass is self entitled. No. Someone who is honestly confident in their beliefs, Doesn't get mad or pissy when someone disagrees with them. You want to know why? Because no matter what you say. I've researched enough about this kind of topic, that I know the facts. And nothing you pull out of your ass, is going to change that. There's a difference between having strong feelings towards a topic, and Crying when someone says something you don't like. Grow up man. Ad-hominems should be kept where they belong, on the playground with children. The consequences of what I say. Hmm, let's see. My lesson to her is to date who she feels an attraction to... So not being in an unhappy relationship. Not letting other people control what she does and who she dates. Sounds pretty good to me. No matter how I look at a man. I will never feel any sexual attraction towards them. Because I had enough testosterone during my puberty period and when my period within the womb, that my brain developed normally by biological standards. I can't change that. Never will. Nor do I want to. Love is something you can't just force. It doesn't work. You aren't talking like someone who has been in a serious long relationship. While it's true, people shouldn't use outward appearances alone to decide a mate. However, Not being attracted to them at all can lead to problems. You want to be with someone who is both attractive to you, mentally and physically. You want to be crazy about them. You don't control your own attraction. Biology matters. Sex matters a hell of alot to me. Why? Because it's the only way to have children with your own blood. While I adore my brothers who I share no blood with, and I could love a child just as much even if we didn't share blood ties. I'd rather continue my bloodline. Biological imperative and all. If someone wants to date guys, as a guy, I'd tell them to go for it. Just like I told her to do so with girls if she wanted. People should stop butting into other peoples business and tell them what they should or shouldn't do, Who they should be attracted to, or who they should love. Which is exactly what you're doing. Now I'm done with this conversation. Because I know what kind of guy you are. I know because I've dealt with dozens like you. You're the type that is far buried in the sand, that nothing anyone says could even make you think of a different possibility. You also aren't civil, and wasting my time with a tiny man with a chip on his shoulder, isn't my idea of a good time. So you have a nice life pal. I hope you can get over this control freak problem you got.
gotchicho
I realized I was Bi when lesbian porn turned me on more than that weird hetero SHIT also because I didn’t ever have a preference with who I had crushes on
cinnaminion
I'm personally bi with a lean towards guys. I initially figured out my sexuality after experimenting with porn at an age I probably shouldn't have. I've watched just about everything genre under the sun, minus the illegal, gore, and extreme stuff. Turns out I really like guys and cute stuff. With all that being said, I don't think I'm much of the 'physical attracted' type. I don't swoon after guys and shut the door on gals just because of their gender identity or what's in their pants. While I could say I do prefer dicks over a vaj if I had to make a choice, I don't let the sex/gender of somebody define my basis of attraction to them. I usually fall for peeps based on their personalities, not what they look like or what they've got going on down there.
guts49
Nothing particularly deep for me. I realised I was straight when a guy tried to grind on me at a nightclub and it didn't give me an overwhelming of joy.
stazmae
I was bi, I'm pans. Yeah, confusing, I know, but there's two stories to this. I got confessed to by a girl, when I was 18. I didn't know how to respond, but somewhere in my head kind of thought 'You know what, she's a really nice girl, I'll try dating her'. I dated her for about a year, until that went down the pan. Gist is, I realised gradually, while dating her, that I felt drawn to her in many ways. She was really lovely. That's when I realised that I swung for both teams. I did feel a physical attraction, but gender didn't ever come in to my mind, when that attraction happened. The second story: How I realised that I was pans. I wasn't exactly attracted physically to anyone. Even the cutest, most attractive guy wasn't doing anything for me, but not to be rude, not all of the people I had fallen for were physically attractive. I was more of the kind of 'Fall for their personality' kind and I found that attractive. I fell for people regardless of what their sex was, or what they looked like. I didn't want to put a label to this sort of love? but then, when I started getting more involved with the LGBT community and made friends, figuring it out and everything, I found out what kind of sexuality that love could be put in to. I was pans. Pansexual, if anyone doesn't know that. I have dated guys before and felt emotional attachment and attraction, too, but welp. Ya, that's the gist, yo. I think it helped, that I had people who were kind enough to help me with figuring it out and listening to me.
salganha
I was dating boy when I realized that I didn't wanted more than romance, it was weird for both of us. Some time later I started having some sexual feeling for a girl friend, and later starting have the same feelings for my boyfriend. 4/5 months later I realized that I was a demi, aka, I only feel interesting in boys/girls after some relationship with that person, but romantic its "normal". For a moment I though I was straight, during a month lesbian, then bi. I think about some childhood memories and realize that I am bi since a little kid, thats weird. end of the story, don't tell your straight cis partner that maybe you just want a romance, you will fight a lot and it will not work.
jtibbs
Honestly, I still question my sexuality from time to time, but I know I'm not gay. I can look at a guy and think to myself "damn he's hot" and not feel uncomfortable about it. I've never wanted a relationship with another man, but sometimes the thought crosses my mind "Am I maybe bi-sexual?". Probably not, but the idea comes across my mind once in awhile.
makotoharuki
I think I'm bi... I've never been in a relationship with another guy but it wouldn't bother me. I was just so unlucky with girls that I started looking for anybody that could love me, no matter their gender. I guess it might not count cause I'm not really attracted to super manly guys (probably cause I got gay shaming from straight friends ;-;). It's all sort of a secret though, cause I would get completely abandoned by my family if they found out I would even consider liking a guy.
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